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Cummings claims Hancock should have been sacked for lying and PM thought COVID was a scare story

Dominic Cummings has claimed that the health secretary should have been sacked for lying, and that Boris Johnson thought COVID was a “scare story” like swine flu in the early days of the pandemic.

In an explosive Commons hearing on coronavirus, the PM’s former chief adviser has told MPs the government failed the public in the early months of 2020.

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‘The health secretary should have been fired’

Explaining why Mr Johnson did not attend the COBRA meetings at the start of last year, he said: “The prime minister described it as the new swine flu, I certainly told him it wasn’t.

“The view from No 10 was if the PM chairs COBRA and says it’s just swine flu that would not help.”

We’re absolutely f****d’: Dominic Cummings’ key claims

He added that the PM wanted to be injected with the coronavirus live on TV by chief medical officer Chris Whitty to show it was not harmful.

Lashing out at Matt Hancock, Mr Cummings claimed that he, the cabinet secretary and other senior officials called for the PM to fire the health secretary for “at least 15-20 things, including lying”.

Mr Cummings said the PM “was close” to firing Mr Hancock in April 2020 “but wouldn’t do it”.

He added that Mr Hancock took too long to get test and trace set up and told the PM: “If we don’t fire the secretary of state and we don’t get testing into someone’s hands, we are going to kill lots of people.”

Dominic Cummings arrives at Portcullis House on Wednesday
Image: Dominic Cummings arrives at Portcullis House on Wednesday

The PM’s former chief aide also said:

• It is “crackers” that people like Boris Johnson and Jeremy Corbyn were the only two options at the last general election

• Chancellor Rishi Sunak supported locking down (and never threatened to quit over the second lockdown), it was the PM who did not think the pandemic “was the big danger”

• “It is crazy I should have been in such a senior position, I’m not smart, I’ve not built great things in the world – neither is the PM” – and he said he and the PM let down brilliant junior colleagues

• Plan A was herd immunity by September after one peak but after it was modelled 260,000 would die, or more, that was changed

• There was no plan for financial help for people and the Chancellor and his team had to create the whole scheme in a few days

• There was no plan for shielding in the pandemic plan but some “brilliant” officials in the Department of Health hacked together a plan in two all-nighters

• “Groupthink” prevented ministers and officials from realising how severe the situation was going to get

• When the PM got COVID, Mr Cummings said: “In lots of ways, the whole core of government fundamentally fell apart.”

• There were claims it would be “racist” to close the borders because it would be tantamount to “blaming China”

• Then-Deputy Cabinet Secretary Helen Macnamara walked into a meeting with Mr Cummings and other officials on 13 March 2020 and said: “I’ve been told for years that there’s a whole plan for this, there is not plan, we’re in huge trouble.

“I think we’re absolutely f****d and we’re going to kill thousands of people.”

• On telling the PM he was going to resign in December 2020, Mr Cummings claimed the PM told him: “You’re right, I am more frightened of you having the power to stop the chaos than I am of the chaos, chaos isn’t that bad because chaos means that everyone has to look to me to see who’s in charge.”

• On Mr Hancock saying people would be tested before they returned to care homes and there was a shield around care homes, Mr Cummings said he lied and said: “Quite the opposite, complete nonsense – we sent people with COVID back to care homes”

• On whether or not to sack Mr Hancock, Mr Cummings said the PM was told: “Don’t sack him now, he’s the person you sack when the inquiry comes along.”

• He would rate the government’s response: “Some individual brilliant responses – overall system, total failure.”

• He did not quit when he considered doing so in the summer because people urged him not to and: “Fundamentally I regarded [Johnson] unfit for the job and I was trying to create a structure around him to stop extremely bad decisions.”

• He made the trip to Durham to get his family out of London following death threats and a gang outside his house where his wife and son, aged three, were threatening them

• He said it was logical at the time to go for a 30 mile drive to Barnard Castle to see if he could cope with driving 300 miles to Westminster, and had been writing his will in bed a few days before because he thought he was going to die.

“I wish I’d never heard of Barnard Castle and I’d never have gone, and I can only apologise,” he added

• “Tens of thousands of people died who didn’t need to die.”

• Patrick Vallance was instrumental in getting the early vaccine contracts and “deserves absolutely enormous credit for his role in the vaccine taskforce”

• After March, the PM thought the UK should not have gone into lockdown and should have focused on the economy – “I thought that perspective was completely mad”.

• Mr Cummings said: “Fundamentally the prime minister and I do not agree about COVID. I had very little influence on COVID stuff, I mean I tried, I made arguments, but as you can see on pretty much all the major arguments basically lost.”

• He said he heard the PM say he would rather see “bodies pile high” than go into a third lockdown

• Asked if he is surprised about the chaos over the current travel traffic light system, he said: “No, it’s deja vu all over again.”

• His departure was inevitable in September, but Mr Cummings’ girlfriend Carrie Symonds was something to do with it as she tried to change “a whole bunch of different appointments”, was appointing her friends to jobs, was overturning the hiring process of one job, which was “unethical and clearly illegal”. The PM’s behaviour was “appalling”, he said

• Asked if he thinks the PM is a fit and proper person to get us through the pandemic, Mr Cummings said: “No.”

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Cummings apology: ‘We failed the public’

At the start of the session, Mr Cummings said the government failed the public when they needed them most and apologised to the families of those who died in the early days of the pandemic.

Taking some of the blame himself, he said: “The truth is, senior minister, officials, advisers like me fell disastrously short of standards required by the public.

“When the public needed us the most, the government failed. I want to apologise to all those families who had people that died.

“I did think oh my god, is this what people have been warning about all this time?

“However, PHE, WHO, CDC, organisations across the western world were not ringing the alarm bells about it then.

“In retrospect, it’s completely obvious that many institutions failed.”